#170 Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money
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Steve is a professional coach and the founder of Downshift — the world's first decelerator. He has left a career in venture, but he remains ambitious, it's just that his ambition is now to have a good, multidimentional life, where he can be a good dad for his kids.
Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.
Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.
- Downshift
- Steve's website
- Steve's Twitter
- Matt's Twitter
- Matt's blog — Game of One
- Matt's blog — Build in Climate
- Downshift on Twitter
⌛TIMESTAMPS
- (00:00) - Intro
- (02:14) - The scripts that Steve & Matt grew up with
- (05:00) - Slowing down, deprogramming and unlearning
- (11:52) - The cocoon stage
- (14:05) - Deciding to quit
- (18:25) - Learning from others on the path and having children
- (25:18) - Trust
- (28:29) - Matt's sabbatical, finding good work
- (34:26) - No jealousy, competitiveness vs enoughness
- (39:28) - Matt's apprenticeship with Steve
- (48:37) - Putting yourself in a place where it's easy to help you
- (52:35) - Downshift & Ambition
- (01:03:06) - Marriage & Family
- (01:10:54) - Reframing money, skiing and oatmeal
- (01:17:15) - Launching decelerator
- (01:21:26) - Closing remarks
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